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18th APOSHO Annual Meeting | Management & Development Committee | Membership Screening Committee | Education and Training committee | Technical Committee | OSHMS Committee
The Minutes of the Eighteenth APOSHO Annual General Meeting (APOSHO-18) Held
in Melia Hanoi Hotel
On Thursday, October 10th, 2002 at 8:00 am


Chairman

Prof. Dr. Nguyen An Luong
Standing Vice President, VGCL
Chairman of NILP's Scientific Council
Chairman of APOSHO-18

Honorary Secretary General

Mr. Julaludin Yusoff  

Member Organizations:

1. National Safety Council of Australia Ltd (NSCA), Australia
2. Industrial Foundation for Accident Prevention (IFAP), Australia
3. Contruction, Planning and Research Unit, Ministry of Development (CPRU-MOD), Brunei Darussalam
4. Chinese Society for Science and Technology of Labour Protection(CSSTLP), China
5. Safety & Environmental Protection Research Institute (SEPRI), China
6. Hongkong Occupational Safety and Health Association (HKOSHA), Hong Kong
7. Occupational Safety & Health Council (OSHC), Hong Kong
8. National Safety Council of India (NSCI), India
9. National Safety and Health Council of Indonesia (NSHCI), Indonesia
10.The Society for Occupational Safety Health and Work Environment (SOSHWE), Indonesia
11. Japan Industrial Safety and Health Association (JISHA), Japan
12. Korea Occupational Safety & Health Agency (KOSHA), Korea
13. Department of Labour and Employment Affairs (DSTE), Macao
14. Malaysian Society for Occupational Safety & Health (MSOSH), Malaysia
15. National Institute of Occupational Safety & Health (NIOSH), Malaysia
16. Institution of Occupational Safety & Health Management (IOSHM), Mauritius
17. Occupational Safety & Health Service (OSHS), New Zealand
18. Occupational Health & Safety Association Incorporated (OHSA), Papua New Guinea
19. Safety Organisation of the Philippines, Inc (SOPI), Philippines
20. National Safety Council of Singapore (NSCS), Singapore
21. The Chinese Taipei Industrial Safety & Health Association (ISHA), Taiwan
22. The Safety and Health at Work Promotion Association (SHAWPAT), Thailand
23. The Institution of Occupational Safety & Health (IOSH), United Kingdom
24. National Safety Council of America (NSC), USA
25. National Institute of Labour Protection (NILP), Vietnam

Honorary Members
Mr. Russell Leith (Beijing 91), Australia
Mr. Jim Whiting (MNL 99), Australia
Mr. Law Chi-Ming (KL 94), Hong Kong
Mr. Ahmad Nordeen Salleh (MRU 2000), Malaysia


Observer
Institute of Safety Health and Environment Management (ISHEM), Mauritius.


Apologies:

Organizations
1.Central Inspectorate of Mines (CIM), Pakistan
2.The Bureau of the National Safety Council of Thailand (BNSCT), Thailand
3. Mongolian Labour Movement (MLPM) (received apology letter on Oct. 11th 2002)

Honorary Members
1. Mr. Oscar Yu (KL 94), Philippines
2. Mr. C B Gareware ( Mel 94), India
3. Mr. M Marbun (Seoul 98), Indonesia


Without Apologies

1. Bangladesh Occupational Safety Society (BOSS)
2. Department of Labour, Ministry of Labour, Nepal
3. Ceylon Society for Prevention of Accident, Sri Lanka


1. Opening

Prof. Dr Nguyen An Luong, Chairman of APOSHO 18, welcomed delegates and officially opened
18th Annual General Meeting. He also thanked the delegates who had attended the APOSHO
18 Conference and exhibition during the 2 preceding days and hoped that their stay in Vietnam
would be an enjoyable and meaningful one.


2. Confirmation of Minutes

Prof. Dr Nguyen An Luong, Chairman of APOSHO 18, welcomed delegates and officially opened
18th Annual General Meeting. He also thanked the delegates who had attended the APOSHO 18
Conference and exhibition during the 2 preceding days and hoped that their stay in Vietnam
would be an enjoyable and meaningful one.


2.1
As the Minutes of APOSHO 17 had been circulated to all delegates, Chairman called for any
comments. As there were no comments from the floor, the Minutes of the last Meeting on
10 October 2001 at Taipei, was unanimously accepted and confirmed.


3 Discussion on Reports from Committees


3.1 Report of The Management Development Committee

Chairman: Prof. Dr. Nguyen An Luong, Chairman, APOSHO 18
Members: NSCA, CSSTLP, NSCI, JISHA, KOSHA, HK OSHC and NSCS.
Present: Mr Jalaludin Yusoff, Hon. Secretary General.

3.1.1. Prof. Dr. Nguyen An Luong, Chairman of the Committee informed that there was need to
discuss the appointment of a new Hon. Secretary General as Mr Jalaludin Yusoff had announced
his intention to step down by 2003.
He said that the Committee felt the position of the Hon. Secretary General was necessary
for maintaining and development of APOSHO. However, matters such as his duties and functions,
methods of selection and whether the position should be that of an individual or an organisation
should be fully discussed and agreed upon.
As currently there were 3 candidates it was suggested that the position could be rotated for a term
of 2 years each but the question of choosing the order also needed to be discussed. It was also
agreed that in appointing the person, consensus, rather than by voting was preferable.

And as there was limited time for all the matters to be discussed at this meeting, his committee
suggested that Chairman APOSHO 19 consult other members and decide on the matters.
There was need to regularise the position in the Constitution.

In the meantime, he added the Committee agreed that Mr Jalaludin Yusoff should carry on until
a new Hon. Secretary General is appointed.
Mr. K C Gupta (India) thanked Chairman and supported the idea of rotation among the 3 candidates
but he would like the matter to be resolved early. He also added that the selection should be
by consensus and not by secret voting.

Chairman thanked Mr Gupta and added that it was not the intention of the Committee to amend
the Constitution to regularise the position and the method of appointment by way of a resolution.


3.1.2. Mr Tony Smith (USA) informed that there is an organisation similar to APOSHO in central
America with its Secretary General in rotation for a term of 2 years. At the end of the term,
the position is transferred to the next hosting country.


3.1.3. Mr Jim Whiting (Hon. Member, Australia) said that the position was very necessary
and this was demonstrated recently when NZ was unable to host APOSHO 19. The incumbent
had immediately taken action and managed to transfer APOSHO 19 to Malaysia.


3.1.4. Mr Dheera Phong-Anant (SHAWPAT - Thailand) also supported Mr Whiting and said that
the position of the Secretary General was necessary and important and added the person chosen
should be knowledgeable and conversant with members should be fully discussed. He also
suggested that 1 or 2 deputies be appointed to assist the Secretary General.


3.1.5. Chairman welcomed the discussion and pointed out that the following matters required
immediate attention: the criteria of the person and the methods of appointing the Hon. Secretary
General and the deputies and the terms of the office. He agreed that the selection should be
by consensus and rotation but since there were 3 candidates, the meeting should agree
how to chose the order of rotation.


3.1.6. Mr Soekotjoe Joedatmodjo (Indonesia) supported the idea of appointment by consensus.
As the meeting did not arrive at a agreement to the appointment of a replacement,
Mr Jalaludin Yusoff agreed to continue until someone is appointed to take over.


3.1.7. Chairman once again reiterated the importance of the position of Hon. Secretary General
and suggested that the incumbent and Chairman, APOSHO 19 work together to work out the best ways
to appoint a replacement. He also urged other members to take an active part on this and forward
their suggestions before APOSHO 19 in September 2003.


3.1.8. Mr Abdul Rahman Dalib (Chairman APOSHO 19) agreed with Thailand's suggestion on the
appointment of deputies and also agreed that he would try to resolve the issue at APOSHO 19.


3.1.9. Dr. Shuh- Woei Yu (Taiwan) agreed that the position of Hon. Secretary General was very
important and urged the Management & Development Committee and Mr Jalaludin Yusoff to
have a least 2 further discussion on this. He also agreed that the Chairman, APOSHO 19 to make
a point to appoit a Secretary General and a Deputy for a term of 2 years and followed by the next
Chairman appointing another Deputy for the same term (with the overlapping term for continuity).


3.1.10. Mr Paul Faupel (UK) thanked Chairman for appointing new members and Hon. Members
to the organisation. He added that his organisation was preparing to celebrate its 60th Anniversary
of establishment and his organisation also adopted consensus on the selection of its Secretary
General.

He also supported Taiwan's idea of the next hosting country appoint its own Secretary General


3.1.11. Mr Law Chi-Ming (Hon. Member) supported the appointment of Deputies and that the
next hosting country also appoint its own Secretary General for the Secretariat.


3.1.12. Mr Jim Whiting requested comments from the delegates from Japan, Korea and China.


3.1.13. Mr Hiromi (Japan) supported the appointment of the Hon. Secretary General by
consensus and that the position be on rotation and also the appointment of deputies.


3.1.14. Mr Xiang Yansun (CSSTLP - China) supported the opinion of Mr Hiromi.


3.1.15. Mr Hyuck-myun Kwon (Korea) agreed that the selection of Hon. Secretary General be
by consensus but felt that the Committee should have at least 2 more meetings to decide
the matter and submit a report to APOSHO 19.

3.1.16. Mr Lee Lam Thye (NIOSH-Malaysia) said that he was closely following the discussion
on the appointment of Hon. Secretary General and agreed that the selection should be by consensus
and that the appointment of deputies was also necessary. He further remarked that Mr Jalaludin Yusoff
was a suitable person for the position and had done well but the organisation forgot that one day
he would step down and the Constitution does not have any provisions for the appointment and
also method of selection of a replacement. He felt that the matter be resolved immediately.


3.1.17. Chairman then summarised the discussion and concluded the following:

1 that the position of Hon. Secretary General was important and necessary and that the meeting
also agreed to the appointment of deputies;

2 that it was necessary to clear the relationships between the Hon. Secretary General, the deputies
and the rotated Chairman of APOSHO;

3 that the Hon. Secretary General must have expertise, be a prestigious and an enthusiastic person
trusted by all members;

4 that APOSHO being a non-governmental organisation should not carry out any election by secret
votes but do so by consensus;

5 that our Constitution defined only activity principals for the organisation but not the position
of the Hon. Secretary General: that the Secretariat mentioned by Mr Law Chi-Ming which is
under Article 11 of the Constitution relates to the host country for the year but not the office managed
by the Hon. Secretary General.

He urged the meeting to acknowledge the above opinions and minutes for the next Chairman to
act upon. In the meantime, he requested Mr Jalaludin Yusoff to prepare a full draft on the positions
of the Hon. Secretary General and the deputies for discussion at APOSHO 19.

3.1.18. At this stage, Mr Lim Boon Khoon (Singapore) raised the question whether the position of Hon.
Secretary General is held by an individual or an organisation. Chairman acknowledge the question
to be discussed and resolved at APOSHO 19.


3.2 Report by Membership Screening Committee

Chairman: Prof. Dr. Nguyen An Luong, Chairman, APOSHO 18.
Members: NSCA, NSC India, MSOSH, JISHA, NSHC Indonesia.
Present: Mr Jalaludin Yusoff, Hon. Secretary General and KOSHA (as observer).
The report by the Committee was earlier circulated.

Prof. Dr. Nguyen An Luong reported the Committee discussed the following:

1 on the position of Nepal' s membership;
2 the membership of Pakistan Labour Union;
3 the application of ISHEM of Mauritius;
4 the elevation NILP's membership;
5 appointment of Hon. Members.


3.2.1. Chairman said that Nepal's application was accepted at APOSHO 16 on condition
that the organisation was represented at APOSHO 17. As it was not represented at APOSHO 17,
Nepal was given another year to be represented at APOSHO 18 but Nepal was absent.

3.2.2. Mr Jalaludin Yusoff informed that the Head of the Department in Nepal had changed
and he had written to the incumbent but not received any reply. Mr Gupta (India) informed
that he had information that Nepal was forming its own National Safety Council and Mr Jalaludin
Yusoff was requested to verify this. The Meeting agreed to extend to Nepal another year to
confirm its membership at APOSHO 19.

3.2.3. Chairman informed that at APOSHO 17, the application of the Pakistan Labour Federation
was also discussed by the Committee. As the applicant has now been informed by the Hon.
Secretary General that its application was turned down due to its failing to meet certain criteria,
the matter is now closed.

3.2.4. Chairman informed that ISHEM of Mauritius applied to be an Affiliate Member but was objected
by the IOSHM of Mauritius, a Full Member of APOSHO on the grounds that ISHEM was not a registered
society and that its Directors were members of IOSHM. IOSHM also contended that Mauritius was
too small a country to accept another similar organisation. He would like the matter to be discussed
and had invited representatives of ISHEM to make its case.

3.2.5. Hon. Secretary General informed that he had earlier received a copy of the applicant's
registration with the appropriate Ministry in Mauritius and that this was already tendered at the
Committee meeting earlier.

3.2.6. Mrs Oormeela Jawaher, representing ISHEM thanked Chairman for allowing representatives
of ISHEM to be present at the Meeting. She said ISHEM was formed to enhanced the work on OSH
in Mauritius but would not mind to work together with IOSHM.

3.2.7. Mr. Kis Kaunhye, the President of ISHEM, also thanked Chairman and requested that
the Meeting consider ISHEM application to be an Affiliate Member of APOSHO.

3.2.8. Chairman urged both IOSHM and ISHEM to discuss together the application and report back
at APOSHO 19. He added that his Committee felt that there was no harm any number of organisations
in any one country carrying the work of OSH for the good of the workers. However, the application
of ISHEM needed to be discussed further the Committee at APOSHO 19.

The Meeting agreed on this.

3.2.9. The Meeting supported the Committee and agreed on the elevation of NILP to that of a
Full Member. Dr Le Van Trinh, Director of NILP thanked the Meeting.

3.2.3. Chairman informed the Meeting that his Committee approved the nominations to Hon.
Members of the following:

1) Mr Hwa-Kyum Kim, the former Director for International Cooperation, KOSHA;

2) Ms. Lenore Townsend, former Chief Advisor, Dept of Labour, New Zealand;
Prof. Cheng Yingxue, former Executive President, CSSTLP, Beijing, China; and

3) Mr Jalaludin Yusoff, Hon. Secretary General, NSCS/APOSHO.

The meeting unanimously agreed. Mr Jalaludin Yusoff thanked the Meeting.

3.3 Report by OSH Management System Committee

(Chaired by Mr Jim Whiting, Hon. Member). The committee's report was earlier circulated.
Members: CSSTLP, KOSHA, MOL NZ, JISHA, NSCI.
Present: Mr Jalaludin Yusoff and NSCS (observer)

3.3.1. Mr Jim Whiting reported that his Committee highly appreciated NILP's proposals on training
courses on OSH Management System and requested NILP to prepare a detailed paper, including
the requirement for financial support to presented for discussion at APOSHO 19.

He also agreed on the updating of information on APOSHO website.

3.3.2. Chairman said that ILO is encouraging in OSH Management training. In addition, JISHA
and JICOSH are also conducting similar courses. NILP shall prepare training proposals including
costs to be presented at APOSHO 19.

3.3.3. Mr Tony Smith suggested that the courses should be directed at small and medium
enterprises as big companies normally already have their own programmes.

3.3.4. Dr. Shuh - Wei Yu suggested that databases of such courses and seminars be catalogued
in the APOSHO website. As Mr Jim Whiting mentioned his experiences in Australia and New Zealand,
Dr Yu invited Mr Whiting to go to Taiwan again for a seminar and promised that ISHA will provide
expenses for his trip.

3.4 Report by Technical Committee

(Chaired by KOSHA). The report of the Committee was earlier circulated.
Members: NSCA, CSSTLP, HK OSHC, JISHA, NSCI, MSOSH, NSHC Indonesia. NSCS, SHAWPAT, NILP
and MOL NZ. Present: Mr Jalaludin Yusoff

3.4.1. Mr Hyuck-myun Kwon presented his Committee's report by projecting APOSHO's website
which had 8 menus. He informed the Meeting that KOSHA will communicate with embers to enlarge
the contents of the website in the following areas:

1) to promote exchange of information;
2) to promote communication and the exchange of delegates.

He also informed that there would be a Labour Protection exhibition in Korea in 2003 and invite
members to attend. He also added that KOSHA has training courses and invited members to share
experiences at these training courses. He also mentioned that KOSHA and JISHA continue to carry
out joint training courses.

3.4.2. In conclusion, Chairman thanked KOSHA for its efforts to update APOSHO website and invited
all members to contribute to the website.

Chairman also mentioned that APOSHO has discontinued its Newsletter but he would like members
to know that ILO/FINNIDA, Finland publishes Asia- Pacific Newsletter on OSH and NILP would accept
responsibility to be the centre to¢®|.

3.5 Report by Education and Training Committee

Members: SEPRI, NSCI, NSHC Indonesia, IOSHM, MSOSH, NSCS, SHAWPAT, KOSHA, HK OSHC, NILP.
Also present: Mr Jalaludin Yusoff
The Minutes of the Committee's meeting was earlier circulated.

3.5.1. The Chairman of the Committee, Mr Xiang Yansun informed that his Committee had
the following to report:

- agreed to provide database of OSH experts to update APOSHO website;
- promulgate training requirements on training courses; and
- promote cooperation with international organisations such as ILO, relating to education
and training,

3.5.2. Dr Shuh- Woei Yu (Taiwan) requested Mr Jalaludin Yusoff to look for sponsors to finance
training courses. He urged that APOSHO members should first be approached and then other
organisations such as ILO, in order for the Committee to be able to fulfil its tasks.

3.5.3. Mr Jalaludin Yusoff replied that, in the first place, APOSHO should set up a Fund,
which had recommended at APOSHO 16 at Mauritius to receive contributions. He added
that the problem could be solved by getting contributing organisation to pay direct to members
organising the training courses.


3.5.4. Chairman said that funds are necessary but not easy to obtain. However, he added
that NILP would agree to organise a Workshop on OSH and would call on experts from member
countries to come but the experts would have to pay for their flights and accommodation
and trainees pay their own fees. He thanked JISHA and JICOSH for providing costs to attend
their courses.


3.5.5. Dr Yu requested Mr Jalaludin Yusoff to put up a proposal in details and added that Taiwan
would sponsor such courses.


3.5.6. Mr Paul Faupel (UK) pledged support in training materials rather than funds.


3.5.7. Prof. Xu Guoping (SEPRI) informed that SEPRI would welcome trainees to attend SEPRI's
course on OSH in mining and would also provide trainees with accommodation (including meals)
but trainees would have to pay for their air tickets.


3.5.8. Mr Tony Smith (USA) said that his organisation is unable to help with funds due to
its regulations but the organisation is doing fund-raising to assist members to attend its World
Congress on OSH in Florida in 2005.


3.5.9. Mr Lim Boon Khoon (NSCS) suggested that members pay 10% of the expenses of organising
APOSHO Meetings every year.


3.5.10. Chairman replied that currently member organisations volunteered to organise Annual
Meetings but APOSHO requires funds to pay for costs of organising training courses in between
Annual Meetings.
He suggested that Mr Jalaludin Yusoff and Chairman APOSHO 19 discuss further the raising
of funds for training courses.

He then concluded the meeting on reports by committees.


4.1 Proposals from MSOSH

4.1.1. Chairman informed that MSOSH tabled a resolution to limit each member to sit in only
2 committees, the most in 3, to enable all other members to be represented in APOSHO
committees. Currently some members are represented in all 5 committees.

4.1.2. Mr Veerasingam (MSOSH) confirmed his organisation's proposal.

4.1.3. Mr Gupta (NSCI) supported the move but would like to know whether a country or
an organisation be limited to the proposal.

4.1.4. Mr Jalaludin Yusoff said that APOSHO constitution only limits the Membership Screening
Committee to 5 members. Other committees could be represented by any number.

4.1.5. Mr Jim Whiting (Hon. Member, Australia) suggested that each country, not organisation,
could represent in only 3 committees. He suggested that Mr Jalaludin Yusoff put up a draft on
this for discussion at APOSHO 19.

4.1.6. Mr Phong -Anant (SHAWPAT) agreed that each organisation represent in at least
one committee but not more than 3.

4.1.7. Mr Jim Whiting also suggested that all members be allowed to attend Committee Meetings
as observers.

4.1.8. Chairman then concluded that:
- FM and ASM members be allowed to attend Committee meetings;
- Organisations are only allowed to be represented in 3 committees and officials representatives
be clearly identified;
- Chairman APOSHO 19 and Mr Jalaludin Yusoff prepare a document for discussion at APOSHO 19.

4.1.9. r Lim Boon Khoon requested that since there were many issues to be discussed further,
Mr Jalaludin Yusoff prepare a detail document for APOSHO 19.


5. The post of Hon. Secretary General

Chairman concluded that after the report of the Management Development Committee on the above
had been discussed fully, the following are to be noted:

1. APOSHO as an important organisation requires a Secretary General's position and also supported
by a Deputy Secretary;

2. The Secretary General and the Deputy should be chosen from persons of prestige and who have
a good knowledge of APOSHO and vast experience in its activities. The positions should be properly
made clear, whether they are persons of organisations.

3. The selection should be by consensus and not by secret votes.

4. Mr Jalaludin Yusoff should continue in his position until a new Secretary General is appointed.

5. Chairman APOSHO 19 and Mr Jalaludin Yusoff should prepare draft paper on this matter,
including a Resolution to complement the Constitution. Both should also consult members
on the matter.

6. Confirmation of future APOSHO meetings

The following venues were decided:
2003 Malaysia - confirmed
2004 China - confirmed
2005 Singapore - confirmed
2006 Thailand - confirmed
2007 Brunei - awaiting confirmation

7. Annual Reports of Members

Chairman informed that he had received 17 reports from members and requested others to
submit their reports.

8. Handing over

Chairman, on behalf of the Organisation Committee, APOSHO 18, thanked all delegates
for supporting APOSHO 18. He also thanked Mr Jalaludin Yusoff for his contributions.
Chairman then handed over the APOSHO flag to Mr Abdul Rahman Dalib, President, MSOSH,
the Chairman of APOSHO 19. Mr Abdul Rahman extended his invitation to all delegates to attend  
APOSHO 19 at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia from 1-4 Sep. 2003. He added that he and Committee
were proud to be given the honour of hosting APOSHO 19.

Mr Gupta and Mr Jalaludin Yusoff, on behalf of all delegates thanked Vietnam, VCGL, NILP
and everyone involved for the success of APOSHO 18.

The meeting was concluded at 12 :00 on 10 October 2002 with a Vote of Thanks to the Chair.